Культурные проблемы на [закрытых] языках программирования

Я мексиканец, а не носитель английского языка, и я могу сказать, что процесс мышления должен быть точно таким же, и как только вы привыкнете к языку (как разработчик вы сталкиваться с этим всю свою жизнь) вы должны уметь делать то же самое, я твердо верю, что язык программирования станет частью вашего естественного языка. Кроме того, я работаю с какой-то компанией в США, и я думаю, что они в значительной степени довольны моей работой. Я считаю, что всем программистам нужно учить английский, но я не думаю, что это должно повлиять на процесс мышления. Вашим программистам потребуются определенные усилия, но я думаю, если они будут достаточно хороши, они смогут преодолеть языковой барьер.

You don't have to be real native English speaker to be super productive, but having high command in the language would definitely help especially once you go beyond "hello world," and start using libraries with big words like concurrency.

I natively spoke Japanese, and I now mostly speak ok Engrish in US, but I don't consider myself to be sub-productive programmer at all. Part of the problem in Japan I suspect is that the language distance from English is so far off, they end up inventing big Chinese character words that's hard to understand or straight off import to katakana phonetics, which probably makes no sense to them.

When you are in the zone, I'd probably be thinking in the programming language itself, so it probably doesn't matter which natural language you speak at home. There are too many hackers who are not native English speaker like Linus, Guido, and Matz to name a few.

I am a German native speaker myself and I haven't experienced any problems with keywords or naming conventions in APIs that would have had an effect on my productivity, but I have to admit that I had a basic understanding of English by the time that I picked up my first programming language.

I am currently working in Taiwan with a mixed team of Taiwanese (Chinese), Swedish, Spanish and several English native speakers (US, South Africa) with English being the common denominator for meetings, code documentation, specification etc. and I have not observed that the native language of a programmer had significant impact on coding skills.

In the scenario I am describing, everyone involved has mastered at least a basic level of English. You can see the difference in proficiency due to the occasional spelling mistake in function names or comments, but based on my experience, you cannot directly link that to code quality.

Also, given that most documentation and tutorials are available in English only (or at least first, before the first translations pop up) for most new projects, I'd assume that most programmers world wide would have picked up a decent level of passive English for reading - not necessarily for actively communicating in it - and that's all I would guess it takes to deal with language intrinsic issues like keywords and function names, even though I wouldn't even consider language keywords an issue. The for keyword does not really relate to "for" in the English language, if you look at the syntactic construct as a whole, does it?

A different issue is communication in general. If your team does not have a common language in which everyone can communicate efficiently, that has a huge impact on productivity. But that language is completely unrelated to the programming language used by the team and does not have to be English at all - based on my experience all technical terms will still be English though, weather the discussion is in German or Chinese.

As a non-native English speaker programmer I can say I've had no problem, mainly because I learned english while learning to program and now (I think) I'm proficient at both.

However, I think I can relate to the fact that the more different the language is to English, the harder it'll be to grok the English parts of languages. Japanese is a great example of a very different language, but even then, learning English has to be thought as of something you have to do to become a good programmer.

Being able to express concisely your ideas in a different language is what programming is about, so learning English is a way to practice (and might even be an advantage to non native speakers, given that they must first practice learning English). But of course, not every person has the same ability regarding languages.

I am a native speaker of English, but I've been studying languages, both human and digital, for most of my life.

I'd guess that the further one's language is from English in its writing system, structure, and vocabulary, the harder the time he'll have. Japanese is a profoundly different language from English, whereas German (for instance) is much closer. I would expect a native speaker of nearly any European language to have a much easier time of it than a non-European one, all else being equal.

I don't think that the divide is between native and non-native English speakers. From a Japanese or Chinese perspective people in Holland or the rest of Europe for that matter are native English speakers. That's because the English language and culture is close to the local language and culture.

I, as a non-native English speaker, have never had problems, and this is also the case for my co-developers in Holland and Israel where I've worked.

The divide is more between the "west" and "east". I have learned (or tried to) Mandarin Chinese, and when you to that you appreciate how different the language structure and thinking process is from the European languages. I can imagine the being a Japanese or Chinese native speaker you struggle with the bias of programming towards English.

Вот такой огромный разрыв между людьми, которые могут программировать , и людьми, которые не могут , по сравнению с этим расстояние между людьми, которые могут понимать 90% распространенных английских слов а те, кто понимает на 100% , на самом деле не так уж и заметны.

То же самое применимо на разных уровнях - люди, которые знают, как писать комментарии, но не знают английского языка, все равно будут писать комментарии лучше, чем гуманитарных наук, перешедших на программирование.

Как человек, для которого английский не является родным, я могу сказать вам, что да, носители английского языка имеют явное преимущество перед теми, для кого английский не является родным. Я считаю, что парадигма английского языка слишком глубоко укоренилась в некоторых языках программирования. Чтение документации происходит медленнее, поскольку перевод технических терминов является наиболее трудным. Я считаю, что английский - обязательный навык для программиста.